Today’s episode of The View got rather interesting…

No, Alyssa Farah Griffin did not wear a MAGA hat like she promised she would if President Trump freed the Israeli hostages (boo!)

But, RFK Jr.’s wife Cheryl Hines appeared as a guest, and the ladies used it as a chance to grill her about her husband’s positions on things like vaccines and Tylenol.

At one point, Whoopi Goldberg tried to pull a quick ‘gotcha’ by claiming that RFK Jr. should not be the head of the HHS because he is “not a doctor.”

But, Cheryl Hines shut her down immediately, schooling her on the facts.

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“90% of Secretaries of the HHS have not been doctors,” Hines said.

That’s when Whoopi pulled a page from the George Stephanopolous playbook, cutting her off and going to commerical break!

Watch the moment here:

Cheryl Hines is right, by the way.

The notion that RFK Jr. is not qualified for the position of Health and Human Services Secretary because he doesn’t have a medical degree is absolutely ludicrous.

In fact, the vast majority of HHS Secretaries have not been doctors and have not even come from medical backgrounds.

Grok broke it down:

The Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW) was established in 1953, and renamed the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in 1980 (with education functions split off). There have been 26 confirmed Secretaries as of October 2025, including predecessors under HEW. The table below lists them all, with service periods and whether they held a medical degree (MD or equivalent, indicating they were licensed physicians).

 

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Name
Service Period
Medical Doctor?
1
Oveta Culp Hobby
1953–1955
No
2
Marion B. Folsom
1955–1958
No
3
Arthur S. Flemming
1958–1961
No
4
Abraham Ribicoff
1961–1962
No
5
Anthony J. Celebrezze
1962–1965
No
6
John W. Gardner
1965–1968
No
7
Wilbur J. Cohen
1968–1969
No
8
Robert H. Finch
1969–1970
No
9
Elliot L. Richardson
1970–1973
No
10
Caspar Weinberger
1973–1974
No
11
Forrest David Mathews
1974–1977
No
12
Joseph A. Califano Jr.
1977–1979
No
13
Patricia Roberts Harris
1979–1981
No
14
Richard S. Schweiker
1981–1983
No
15
Margaret Heckler
1983–1985
No
16
Otis R. Bowen
1985–1989
Yes (Family medicine)
17
Louis Wade Sullivan
1989–1993
Yes (Hematology)
18
Donna Shalala
1993–2001
No
19
Tommy G. Thompson
2001–2005
No